Z-axis Crashing into Bitsetter and multiple tool measurements

S5 Pro owner and I’m coming to my wits end when beginning a job. It seems like if you don’t follow a very strict initialization/setup regiment and do everything in a precise sequence, you end up crashing your z-axis into the bitsetter. It’s come to the point where I don’t trust the machine from not crashing into the bitsetter and I have my finger on the e-brake whenever a tool measurement happens.

Before I get into it, I also want to ask the question of WHY DO I NEED SO MANY TOOL MEASUREMENTS? Initialize–>Tool measurement #1–>Load job/jog to zero–>Tool measurement #2 before jogging–>Successful job/zeroing–>Start job–>Tool measurement #3–>Job starts. I’m afraid that if I don’t measure it and hit “cancel” I’ll add scenario #3 to the list below…which has happened, I just didn’t document it as thoroughly.

The two scenarios below are just a few examples of the exact steps I took before a z-axis tool measurement crash. Please add your examples if you’ve come across another one.

Scenario 1

  1. Initialize & Measure tool
  2. Load Job
  3. Start (forgot to set zero)
  4. Jog to go set zero
  5. CM asks top measure tool length again
  6. Crash into bitsetter
  7. E-brake, begin again
    Reason: Forgot to jog first to set zero before starting a job?

Scenario 2

  1. Complete successful job
  2. Load new file to cut a different job
  3. CM asks to measure tool length
  4. Crash into bitsetter
  5. E-brake, begin again
    Reason: Because CM can’t handle back-to-back jobs?

What gives on both so many tool measurements and the inconsistent initialization/start up success rate?

I don’t understand “Tool measurement #2” ??
I follow this process

  1. Initialize (If BitSetter is activated it prompts you to load the probe / dowel / measuring tool & measures it.)
  2. Jog to set zero
  3. Load program
  4. Start → Start
  5. Load your first tool (It measures it to get the difference from your probing tool, then starts the job)

You can use the same tool to set your zeros & start the job. It measures it twice. If this is the case, look at the Z value before you hit OK to measure the tool. It should be the same after measuring.

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When I hit Jog it prompts me to measure the tool again. I don’t know why, but I always do it.

I cannot connect to my Shapeoko right now but when you initialize and then jog you always get a message that you have not set zero. You can just dismiss that because you are going to set zero anyway. When you power off your machine the last X Y and Z are remembered. I would always check because during initialization you can get millimeter/thousands of an inch difference between the switch triggering last time for the internal coordinates and the new initialization.

A good check is before starting a job is to use jog, rapid positions to position at X and Y zero and Z +6mm. Make a 6MM block to check the z.

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This is not what I’m saying. CM is prompting that I need to measure the tool again before doing any jogging. I ualways rapid to last X/Y and double check Z, which usually varies by a few .001 +/- depending on stock thickness variations.

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