Carbide Motion 2 Beta

(Rob Grzesek) #42

Just posted a new beta. We added support for the Shapeoko, that should begin shipping tomorrow, and added a “Rapid Positioning” mode in jogging to get you to the corners of the table quickly.

Let me know what you think. I’d love to get this moved over to “released” and no longer beta.


(Oliver Blum) #43

Wonderful! I will try it out too, although i just started a 6h job with the old version about 10 minutes before your post :frowning:
Oh well, there is always another carving!


I installed the new version and it doesn’t work. When I open the application a windows window opens and says that carbide motion doesn’t work anymore. I installed it in different ways and changed the compatibility settings but nothing worked …

(Rob Grzesek) #45

What kind of PC and OS are running?



My OS is Windows 8.1 64 Bit and I tested it on various PC’s but one is the Asus UX32LN. It has a i7 and 8GB ram.

(Rob Grzesek) #47

My fault- a new version is posted now.



Thank you! Now it works.

(Rob Grzesek) #49

Thanks for the update. Let me know if anything comes up.


(mark) #50

so far so good. love the quick positioning.

(Rob Grzesek) #51

Glad you like it. I think we’ll be adding drop down menus to pick additional features to reference like the dowel pin holes, flip jig (when it ships).


(William Adams) #52

I just d/l’d and installed the Carbide 2 Beta on my ThinkPad X61T running Windows Vista — the type looks ghastly.

Intel something or other graphics, 32-bit colour 1024 x 768.

(M Donahoo) #53

I had a similar problem when I installed Carbide Motion on an older Dell Laptop. Rob advised that Carbide uses OpenGL and I found that Dells video card didn’t have an update for its video driver that old. I re-installed Carbide Motion on a newer computer and everything worked and looked the way it should. Give it a try on a newer computer and see how it works.

(William Adams) #54

Why does this need OpenGL? It’s flat graphics and type.

The new computer angle is a bit of a sore point at the moment, due to Asus’s pathetic quality control and stupidly small and fiddly and confusable connectors and people doing instructions as videos.

(Rob Grzesek) #55

The Qt framework that we depend on uses OpenGL heavily. They have an optional rendering system for Windows that I’ll be looking into but most of the OpenGL issues went away on their last update to Qt so we put that on hold.

(William Adams) #56

Fair enough.

Some further observations:

  • when it can’t connect, it says it can’t connect to a Nomad — update for the Shapeko 3?
  • first time I tried to zero I wound up w/ -0.00 for X, 0,00 for Y and -0.02 for Z — despite pressing the relevant zero buttons repeatedly. Other times it was -0.00, 0,00 and -0.00 — while you’re looking at that, could you change the hyphen to a true minus symbol?
  • is there a manual? I found this page: (which btw needs to be up-dated to mention that it’ll work w/ an SO3). I did find a couple of .pdfs on your site (one mentioned L for the log window and M for the MDI window)
  • I brought up the latter, typed $$ and hit Send, but didn’t get settings (this was was the Carbide Motion Control Software beta and the Carbide Motion all-in-one board I just got w/ my SO3) — I was able to update $100 and $101 to 40 to get my machine moving properly for 1/8 microstepping though (once I also did this for $102 for the Z-axis)

Nifty and nice looking program — I just wish one didn’t have to toggle though so many windows — have you considered just having an array of tabs / buttons across the top of the window to switch between modes?

It would also be nice to have the option of either a progress meter, or a display of the toolpath and the machine’s progress along those.




I just got my Nomad last weekend. Great product. I like carbide motion.

When doing a project it seems that carbide motion ends up homing and measuring the tool twice. Since I am new to this I am making a lot of simple cuts to understand how things work, and get the feeds and speeds right. The extra overhead of doing homing and tool measurement twice on each job adds up.

The process is load project…move cutter…click to measure tool…move cutter to pick zero point…begin project…insert tool…homing and measures tool…then start cutting.

For the majority of my work I use just one tool per job. Would it be possible on the page where carbide motion asks to insert the tool to have a button for ‘use existing tool’ and a button for ‘change tool’ or something like that. The 'change tool ’ button could work the way it does now. The ‘use existing tool’ button could perhaps skip the extra homing and tool measurement cycle…

I would like to have an elapsed time field when the job is running. It currently shows percentage done and the XYZ positions, which is good stuff. If there was also an elapsed time field I would use it frequently.

There may be good reasons why it works the way it does, but if there is a way to add a couple buttons to reduce some of the positioning and tool measurement cycles it would speed up the process.

It would also be nice to run the same job again with just setting a new zero point, to cut the same thing out of a different part of the stock, and not having to run through tool selection, tool measurement, etc…

All in all this is great Beta software.



3steve - good point. You have to home the machine first and check the tool length before you can start running the project - and after you click run, it homes again and checks the tool length again.

Also, I noticed another quirk

When a job is finished, the cutter stops spinning, moves up to the height I set in the toolpath, but the table doesn’t move - it stays put. Often I need to manually pull the table forward to get at my part.

However if I pause and then cancel a job before it’s over, the cutter moves up and away, and the table moves to the front.

I think this is a good fix - when your job is complete, move the table to the front like it does if you cancel the job :slight_smile:



I agree that moving the table up to the front after a job would be helpful.

Even ‘as is’ Carbide Motion is better than most new or ‘beta’ release software I have seen. Hats off to Robert for a job well done.

Hopefully there will be a little time before the final release to put in a few things to make it simpler and faster to use.



Approximately when will the next release of Carbide Motion be, and will it include any of the suggestions noted above?


(William Adams) #61

Okay, what are the system requirements? It’s unusably slow on my ThinkPad X61T.

How does one go about updating the firmware to allow one to use other controller software?

Are the settings documented somewhere?

I tried to use a Compaq 8510W running Windows 7, but had to put the machine away when I loaded a project and the machine never moved past 0.0%