Having a weird problem with stars on American flag

We are using a V-carve bit to make stars in an American flag and trying to do it in a number of different sizes. Once we get to the larger sizes, we are having a weird issue…when the bit carves from the middle of the star out, the stars look great! But when it carves from the top of the point of the star, it puts a minor bend into the star, which makes it look bad.

Why is it doing this? Is there anyway to make the Shapeoko carve from the middle of the star every time?

I’m using the Carbide software.

Thanks

It would help to have a photo.

Have you checked the forum for the other flags?

Meaning the other files? I haven’t really…could you nudge me in the right direction? Here’s a picture:

Also worth noting that the board doesn’t move and not all stars do this…it’s just a handful and they aren’t in any particular grouping (not at the same time, in the same area, etc)

Please post the file you are having difficulty with.

Possibilities include:

  • feeds and speed rates and depth per pass setting — please check these
  • trying to cut a star which is larger than the diameter of the V endmill you are using — use a less acute V endmill with a larger diameter or model the star as a 3D shape

50 stars x-large.nc (48.2 KB)

Feed rate is 15.279
spindle speed is 7639
depth per pass is .272

I am very new to all this so these numbers don’t mean anything to me. This is what the program auto set them to. Thanks so much

Where, in the 50, are those two stars?

I think @WillAdams is asking for the c2d file from Carbide Create.

EDIT: In the gcode, there are moves that “re-cut” those points. My guess is that your stock moved or you lost a step somewhere.

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Please test feeds and speeds per: https://www.precisebits.com/tutorials/calibrating_feeds_n_speeds.htm

I’d suggest reducing the depth per pass

I would try a 90deg bit instead and/or create a flat spot in the center of the star that you clear with an 1/8" and only v-carve to that depth.

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50 stars x-large.c2d (231.3 KB)

I meant to send the c2d file. I just got confused. Sorry and thanks. I’ll try some of these suggestions tomorrow.

doing a depth per pass of more than 0.1" will stress the bit/holiding/etc a lot …

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You are allowing Carbide Create to auto-calculate the speeds and feeds and depth per pass.

Don’t do this unless you’ve tested them in the material you are using.

Please test them per: https://www.precisebits.com/tutorials/calibrating_feeds_n_speeds.htm

That smells like a mechanical issue - x-y.
Regarding “the other flags” - for some reason it seems like about 20% of the universe makes a flag as one of their first v-carves :slight_smile: . Problems usually show up with all sorts of things trying to do so.

https://community.carbide3d.com/search?q=flag

Obviously you need to look at your F&S, it may not be the entire problem but you cannot get a spindle speed of 7639 with a router on the Shapeoko, the minimum is 10K on the Makita, 12K on the Carbide and 16K on the Dewalt. This is probably the default in Carbide but it is only applicable to the Nomad, it is a well-known issue for Shapeoko. If the router speed is double, your feed rate would need to double too. I also agree that the depth per pass is probably twice what you should use for detail work like your stars. What is the speed setting on your router?

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I want to say thank you to everyone for your input. Changing the feeds and speeds fixed it. Thanks so much.

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