Oneida Air Systems Dust Deputy Anti-Static Cyclone Separator

[Emmess (Matthias Solga)]

Oneida Air Systems Dust Deputy Anti-Static Cyclone Separator (DD Bagger), wall mount, for free, just need shipping costs, will be a rather large not too heavy box since I do not want to disassemble the item, is a little tricky.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084611MM2?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3

Worked well, Oneida said anti-static, I am not so sure, I earthed the hoses, and still while cutting Epoxy resin the static electricity could be felt when touching the cyclone, and the connection to the main unit was lost several times.

And handling the bag, held in place with a rubber band, was rather bothersome for me: was in a kind of far a way corner.

When it was stuck the dust was sucked up to the vacuum, what filled the filter there fast.

However otherwise it worked well. So despite being -surprise- dusty it works well, and I should have another bag somewhere. Indeed this one is the first from 2021. Oneida does not offer this type of device any more.

Can be picked up of course in Glens Falls, NY too.

(I use this item now: 2 in 1 Dust Cyclone Collector Separation Vacuum Cleaner Wall Mounted Wheeled Modes Dust Collector Woodworking Tools Contractor Polish Pollen Ash etc Focusing Small Dust (Whole Rocket Set) - Amazon.com)
Hope less static electricity issues. But this item also appeared better in the videos than it works in reality: the valve that automatically should release the dust into the trash can does not work as automatically as expected: with mi first attempt the dust got stuck there, and I hat to poke with a piece of dowel to release it…

btw: is the Masso controller less sensitive to static challenges? Would be a massive expense, but the C3D frame is excellent to keep, the closed loop motors of the Masso system appear nice and worth the work of change. Any one experience with switch from C3D controller to Masso?

[HeuristicBishop (Tyler Sowers)]

@Emmess

is the Masso controller less sensitive to static challenges?

In theory, the MASSO should be more resilient by virtue of it not using USB to the computer for control. In practice, it’s still reading a file from USB so it might not be quite as bullet proof as one might expect. (Still much better though)

The close loop motors are certainly an upgrade in ~every way over the stock steppers but I expect you wouldn’t actually see any improvements in real world use. The stock C3D steppers are well spec’d for the machine and they get the job done in most any situation.
The closed loop steppers are kind of like a Ferrari compared to a Toyota. The Ferrari is nice but for the vast majority of use cases, that Toyota is going to serve you just fine.

I think there are ready made kits for converting Shapeoko from C3D controller to MASSO right? If so, it’s probably not too bad to do the conversion. If you can’t buy a ready made kit, I can say from experience that a controller conversion can be an immense amount of work to spin up. (Especially if you’ve never done one before)

So if there’s a kit, I’d probably recommend it. If the kit has an option that just comes with stepper drivers to reuse the stock steppers, that is the route I’d go (assuming it saves a good chunk of cash over buying the servos)

All in all, I like the MASSO G3 I’ve used and I think it’s a material upgrade over the stock C3D controller…if only because it’s not stuck on GRBL. Much love to GRBL, it did a lot for the community but when basic machine behaviors change because of limited memory, it’s time to change things up (in my humble opinion )