One thing which I’ve found which helps with repeatability is starting up the machine with the gantry and carriage in a consistent position — @edwardrford used to call it “poor man’s homing” — you pull the gantry and carriage tight against the opposing corner, then power up the machine —always being in that same spot usually results in the belts and step positions lining up more consistently.
I do that. I push it all the way to the back before powering up. I guarantees the X extrusion will be square since my machine is square.
With this shelter in place situation I’m sitting here with three screens in front of me; on the other two I’m working in nm so at first this went right past me; however, I think you meant um.
It could be nm but with a lot of 0’s behind it
1mm = 1,000,000nm
Sorry, getting silly form the quarantine
Thank you for this tip Will!
It inspired me to start thinking about setting up an interferometer on my Nomad to get a better handle on repeatability.
Crazy? maybe. Do I have the materials on hand? yup. Do I have a stable enough platform and foundation? we’ll see, if I try this.
Hmm. Maybe contest 7? Interferometric techniques?
I have at least a few more weeks of lockdown, and likely 8 to 12 weeks of work-from-home (though we are only firm until 20apr right now) and the nature of work is that I have one to two hour cycles over a 12 to 14 hour day (online teaching for job one, but no real-time permitted so no Zoom, Skype, etc etc)
The big win here with the proximity switches is that they don’t have the mechanical failures modes that the mechanical switches do. As many people have seen, they’re a bit delicate. That whole issue goes away. If that was the only reason to do so, it’s a good enough reason.
You should also keep in mind that the precision and accuracy here will be impacted by the approach speed to the sensor - I’ve found that by keeping that approach slow things are much more repeatable than with a high approach speed (ie. seek at high speed, then “locate” at high speed isn’t as good as “locate” at low speed). I think this is due to interrupt latency on the controller. I’ve seen the same behavior with tool probing.
I do have one of luke’s pre-carbide switches that stopped working at 5v - it was fine when I got it, but after about 5 months it stopped working, it required a little under 6v and has been fine on 12v. In my mind, that’s not that big a deal. They support a pretty wide input range, but I would suggest not messing around and just connect them higher than 5v (12v would be fine). Finding the cheap proximity switches that are “rated” for 5v seems to be more of an exercise in rating manipulation
this is a very good mention to take note of as well.
its good practice that can apply alternatively down the line.
some of the big cncs have what is known as cold start or home positions for the encoder.
you would jog the machine to these visibly marked positions before you shutdown.
failure to do so will prevent the machine from starting up normal.
Assuming that you’re talking about proximity sensors rather than limit switches, do they have open collector/drain outputs or are the associated electronics rated for 12V input levels?
Seems to depend a little on the exact proximity switch you choose as to their output configuration. I built a zener diode (5v) clamp and used that to process the output of the switch. See " Zener Diode Clipping" here: https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode-clipping-circuits.html . This lets you use the 3 wire type that have a common Vin with the Vout of your choosing.
Daniel at Pwncnc is working on them and I just got a set running on my Shapeoko 3, working on my set for the xxl at the moment.
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