I have a S3 Standard serial number 508. I have a new motherboard (version 2.4g).
I don’t have proximity switches, looking at the kit for proximity switches, they say they won’t work with the Dewalt router, which is the router I have.
I have an older version of carbide motion 743.
When I try an extract the gcode out of the .c2d file, I can load it but I get an error code 1 motion mode is unset.
My question is: if I use an older version of carbide motion that will allow me to save/export as gcode will that work?
What is the issue with the dewalt routers and the proximity switches?
Maybe @robgrz answered the problem. However I have an SO3 XXL and cannot remember if I replaced my mechanical switches before or after getting an HDZ.
Do you have a belt Z? The SO3 Standard came with a collar to reduce the 69MM Dewalt router to 66MM for Makita/C3D router. If you dont still have that I think you can get one from C3D.
I looked at the C3D store but did not see the reducing collar but send an email to sales@carbide3d.com or to support@carbide3d.com to see if they have one laying around.
A more expensive option if you have a belt Z is to buy a z-Plus.
If you need an older version of CM I can put whatever version you want on google drive but I would recommend updating your SO3 while you can. The SO3 is not made anymore but C3D still supports it.
Thanks for reaching out Will, I really appreciate it.
I started with the latest versions of both Create and Motion. I found out with Motion when I go to initialize, it is looking for proximity switches. My machine is so old SN 508, that it was before proximity switches were added.
So trying to go backwards with the software, but when I have an earlier version of Motion, I can’t select the file to load because it is a .c2d file. Then I remembered it needed to be gcode, so I tried the gcode extractor on my.carbide3d.gcodeextractor (url might not be correct, going from memory, not at home right now).
Got the gcode, then loaded it into motion then I get the error 1 message line 1 motion something is unset.
I purchased a new motherboard one that is ver 2.4g.
I was thinking that if I get the new homing switches, then I can stay with the current version of motion. Then I saw something about the Dewalt router creates an issue and won’t work with the new homing switches. I have the stock v axis not the HDZ.
What do you suggest I do to make this work? Is it possible?
I have two issues Rob, the first is I don’t have any limit switches and the new versions of Motion software are looking for limit switches. So I can’t use the new version of Motion. So I need an earlier version of Motion. I have an earlier version, but it won’t load a .c2d file, so I need the gcode file to attempt to load. I can extract the gcode from the .c2d file from the extract gcode page on my.carbide3d.com. When I do, I get an error in line 1 motion mode is unset code.
Thanks Will, 2 more Questions: A long time ago, I bought a set of mechanical homing and limit switches from Additive Aerospace. I have to find them as I never connected them up. Can I use them with the new board?
2nd Question is I have a Bit Zero and a Bit Setter can I use them?
I am going to use the bypass command to see if I can get things working. If I can, I will then try out the homing and limit switches and see if I can get them to work. Then if that works, then I will try the Bit Zero and Bit Setter.
I believe so. Switches are switches and so long as the connectors are the same it should work.
Yes, we include a “PCB Splitter Board” which allows one to change a single Probe connector (the Reserved header) into two — if you get proximity switches and the “PCB Riser Board” for the “PCB Expansion Adapter” you don’t need it, since it adds a second P(robe) input.
Thanks, I will try all of this today (provided I can find the switches) and let you know how it goes. I know it has been a long time running, but I am excited to finally get time to make it work and play with it. By chance do you know what the last serial number for the Shapeoko 3 Standard was? I am curious now to see how many were made after I bought mine, a million years ago! Ha ha
I have a high four digit at home — but we stopped doing serial #s for the Shapeoko line for some reason (Nomads still have serial #s) — as for how many have been made, no idea, save that it’s
… one of the best-selling CNC routers ever . . . . How do we know it’s the best-selling ever? He’s got an Excel pivot table to prove it. Though to be fair, he’s got a pivot table for almost everything.
Ok, so an update. I have create build 778, motion 3.0.366 and motion build 640.
On a Mac Machine running OS 14.6.1
I tried the homing switch bypass you recommended. I wasn’t able to go any further than type the “G28.3” in the MDI interface. Once I got back to the Jog screen the machine wouldn’t respond to any jog commands.
So I moved on to the next test.
I created a simple project in create, saved it as a .c2d file. Then opened up motion 640 and was able to load the file. I then was able to save out the gcode. Then I quit motion 640, opened motion 3.0.344 and connected, set my zeros and then loaded the gcode. I was able to run the file, albeit the start location was off, but at this stage it is minor as I was able to run the file.
I am wondering if there is another way to turn off the homing switches. There is no access to the jog function before I go into the MDI screen.
I have a pc laptop. I am going to try it on that and see if I have the same issues.
No change, same issues with a PC. Once I input the G28.3 command, when I get back to the jog menu, I can not jog the machine.
I did the upgrade from physical switches to the prox switches and am running a DeWalt router. My only issue was figuring out where the x-axis sensor went.
So I have a great update. I remembered that I bought a set of homing switches from a guy 8 yrs ago (Additive Aerospace) I found them and after watching Winston’s video on upgrading his Shapeoko from 8 yrs ago. I was able to get them connected and was able to get past the initialization stage on setting up my machine with Motion 6. Pretty excited now. I will create something in Create and see if I can send it to Motion and it works correctly. I will update after I do that.
I did a test with a file out of create straight to motion and it cut just fine. I also used the bit setter and bit zero 2.0 without any issues. Now I have to tidy up the cables and print some drag chains and then get the Sweepy connected and working and will be ready to start leaning how to use my Shapeoko 3 standard, albeit almost 9 yrs late!
Great that you got it working. With homing switches you can go to the latest CC/CM. In CC v7 they do not make separate gcode and the gcode is encrypted inside the .c2d file. CM can extract that gcode and cut your project. If in v7 you want to make separate gcode you have to buy the pro version. The beta v8 just came out but is beta and will be changing things around.
