Adding a special tool in the database

[Mseguin (Martin Seguin)]

Hello group,

Anybody know how to add this tool in the database? This is a SpeTool CA W09001 Carbide Tipped Round Over 1/4" Radius x 1/2" Cutting Diameter x 1/4" Shank x 2" Overall Length 2 Flute Router Bit

[WillAdams (William Adams (Carbide 3D))]

See:

Using unsupported tooling in Carbide Create: Roundover / Cove / Radius bits

These are usually used in routers for decorative effects in wood: https://www.whitesiderouterbits.com/products/1570 but they are potentially useful for joinery: They are also useful for rounding off parts to allow rotary motion as for a hinged lid. Unfortunately, Carbide Create does not support this endmill geometry — but using the new support for previewing a V endmill when used in a No Offset Contour toolpath, it should be possible to preview them w/ confidence by stacking a series o…

[Mseguin (Martin Seguin)]

Ouch, really complicated.

I wish CC would add features for bit that other software support like this one or the VBits for inlay.

MillMage that is a new software support the roundover bit I asked you.

[SDGuy (Anthony)]

You can add the tool to your tool database pretty easily, the issue will be that it will not render in the model properly.

You’ll have to remember the tool number and its parameter, ie DOC.

I would add this tool a V-bit and in the notes keep the DOC max so you don’t go too deep with it. Measure the distance from the point to the shoulder and thats you max DOC.

[SirGariff (Gary Clark)]

I have that exact same bit and have not created the tool thing-a-muh-jig in CC yet. Being the lazy person I am, I’m hoping someone screen shots there’s directly from CC so I can copy it

[Jeffish (Jeff de Ruiter)]

@SirGariff Thats what us Canadians call the Easy Button

[SirGariff (Gary Clark)]

Yup… and since I lived about 6 miles from the Canadian border for half my life, I’ll take it, eh?

[Pchuk (Jarret Palodichuk)]

@SirGariff

I have that exact same bit and have not created the tool thing-a-muh-jig in CC yet. Being the lazy person I am, I’m hoping someone screen shots there’s directly from CC so I can copy it

I picked one like that up at CIC Workshop, I also downloaded the tool database for it. I’ll check to see what they have for CC when I get home, unless someone does it before me.

BTW here is the link to the CIC bit and the tooling databases.
PT25 Bit

Tooling database

[Pchuk (Jarret Palodichuk)]

After downloading the Carbide Create database for the round over bit I found the following setup.
Name: Point Cutter Roundover - 1/2"" x 1/4"" - 1/4"" Radius - 1/4 Shank
Type: Endmill
Diameter: 0.5
Flute Length: 0.5
Number of flutes: 2
Stickout: 2
Plunge Rate: 25
Feedrate: 50
RPM: 18000
Depth: 0.175
3D Stepover: 40
3D Feedrate: 50
3D RPM: 18000

[SirGariff (Gary Clark)]

Thanks!! As apparently our friends north of the border say “that’s the easy button” I’ll take that any day of the week!

[Pchuk (Jarret Palodichuk)]

After watching the video from CIC Workshop, not all round over bits are made the same. The difference is the depth of the cut, some flatten the point a little due to the high chance of breakage. The recommendation was to use your calipers and measure the depth. The CIC one I linked above is ground to a depth of .177 which is why the DOC in the spread sheet from them was set for .175.

Here is the video of its use and reasons behind the dimensions.

[hawg02 (Mike)]

Spetool has a database you can download. As others noted I would watch the CIC video on the round-over bits

[ColdCoffee (Robert)]

I decided to define round-over bits in CC as a V-Bits, which enables the preview to show me as realistic as possible.

[Randy (Randy Gordon-Gilmore)]

Wacky Friday lunchtime thought… A roundover bit is basically a bullnose bit with a negative corner radius. It would be awesome if CC worked that way…