There seems to have been a lot of beer holding recently! Can’t wait to see what will come out of this. Maybe some more of my predictions will come to life.
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I’m very afraid of what this is going to do to my disposable income in 2020. Might need to cut down on food 
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Yes - I think we just need a subscription service where carbide3D just sends us a Shapeoko upgrade once a month 
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OMG a Subscription service would be AMAZING! Take my money now!
I’d be in for the “Shapeoko Upgrade of the Month” club! Where do I sign up?
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This is fun. My next new thread will be Let’s talk about Linear Rails…
Then Let’s talk about 800w 110v spindles the next step up from trim routers…
And then…
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IMO it’s better not to break anything. Controlling spindle torque enables that. 
And didn’t you say earlier that “I’ve had my XXL for 3-4 years and still on original wheels… how are yours failing?”
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Why did you “say” that?
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Controlling spindle torque has its place, it won’t do much to help if an endmill is plowed into a vise or chunk of aluminium.
I have had my XXL since they were released, and have been quite lucky with it - not one big crash yet. However prior to that I had a standard SO3, which was my first CNC. The wheels on it did not last so well - it had a few decent crashes. My point is not that the wheels fail (in my experience they don’t seem to) but i think its a good thing having a weak point on a machine that is targeted at the newer end of the CNC spectrum, V wheels are cheap and easy to replace
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You got me all hot and sweaty over here…
But wouldn’t the stepper motors just slip or stall before something broke if the endmill wasn’t spinning? I guess I haven’t done that yet?!
from running a hdz into a bitsetter…
no they keep going 
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Cool - what all broke?
my router came out of its holder, a few acentric nuts came loose so that vwheels came off their track, and I had to retighten some belts
Sounds like HDZs can provide a lot more than the 18 lbf of the stock Z axis! You’re lucky the router wasn’t running at the time! I, and likely many others, have broken both Z and X axis V-wheels on stock Z axis Shapeokos when crashing running routers.
Has anyone out there broken V-wheels when the spindle wasn’t running?
2020-01-03 Update: This issue was discussed in depth in an earlier thread. The question wasn’t answered though.
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Surprisingly, the V-wheels apparently don’t contribute significantly to Shapeoko deflection when compared to that from stock and steel drive belts!
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Huh, I work for 3M and I’ve not heard this story. Interesting
Can’t find the article I read, but here’s a journal article — turn to pg. 18:
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