Newby Help! Cut is too large compared to file (Fixed)

Hi,

After having been in storage for 3 years (or so) I have finally setup my Shapeoko 3 and attempted my first cut. I designed a simple 100mm x 100m square in Carbide Create 756 and put a couple of words on it. I managed to get the Shapeoko to run the file but the text on the wood is roughly 50% bigger than I would have expected (about 160 - 170mm across). Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

The machine seems to home perfectly, move perfectly (N/S/E/W) and the bitsetter works nicely.

Many Thanks
Chris

I did find this on my travels - Carbide Firmware Updater

Wondering if I need to update my controller firmware to use the latest Carbide software?

Chris

If you are already using a version of Carbide Motion later than 3 then your firmware is up-to-date.

If you have an older machine, and have re-sent the current machine configuration and it’s moving twice as far is it ought for a given command your machine is probably set to 4x micro-stepping — power down and toggle the DIP switches on the controller to 8x to halve the motion.

Sorry to say I can’t see any dip switches - it’s a black board I think it says 2.4e on it.

Looking at online photos of the white boards the dip switches are obvious.

Sorry for the repeated dumb questions!

Thanks
Chris

In that case, send the correct configuration for your machine:

If that doesn’t address this, let us know at support@carbide3d.com

It didnt so I will email - thanks!

Chris

I believe your problem here is that you are not taking into account the diameter of the tool. Please see:

Thanks but how can not taking into account the diameter of a 6mm tool add 60mm to a 100mm wide design? I could see how it could add 6mm quite easily (3mm each side) Unless it’s adding 6mm for each of the 10 letters and the design is somehow expanding / scaling in the CNC? I will keep reading as you suggest.

Tomorrow I wi try a simple 100mm sided square. If it comes out 150mm big surely it has to be something else!

Thanks again

Chris

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Well here are the results and as I thought its not a toolpath issue.

I designed an 80mm square with rounded corners and set the bit toolpath to be on the inside.

The Y axis cut is 100% perfect (80mm) but the X-axis is 122mm (scaled by a tiny bit over 1.5 times).

As a reminder the gantry homes perfectly and can find the bitsetter perfectly everytime.

The clear motor photo is the Y axis, the blurry one is the X but I am pretty sure it is identical (other than its an L not an S on the end I think).

Any more ideas?

Thanks
Chris







Oh and my settings from $$

$$
$0=10
$1=255
$2=0
$3=2
$4=0
$5=0
$6=0
$10=255
$11=0.020
$12=0.010
$13=0
$20=0
$21=0
$22=1
$23=0
$24=100.000
$25=2000.000
$26=25
$27=3.000
$30=1000
$31=0
$32=0
$100=40.000
$101=40.000
$102=320.000
$110=10000.000
$111=10000.000
$112=1300.000
$120=500.000
$121=500.000
$122=100.000
$130=845.000
$131=850.000
$132=150.000
ok
N0 G4P0.5
ok
$#
[G54:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G55:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G56:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G57:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G58:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G59:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G28:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G30:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[G92:0.000,0.000,0.000]
[TLO:0.000]
[PRB:0.000,0.000,0.000:0]
ok
$G
[GC:G0 G54 G17 G21 G90 G94 M5 M9 T0 F0 S0]
ok

Just for fun I tried jogging 100mm on the X axis and measuring - sure enough it moves just over 150mm
This would I guess suggest a steps / mm issue? But why?

Ta
Chris

The steps/mm are set correctly, so the problem is either:

  • wrong kind of belt or pulley
  • an electronics issue

Let us know at support@carbide3d.com

Found it! -The X motor pulley was on the outside not the inside on the HDZ. Now fixed and cutting nicely.
I presume I missed that step on the HDZ install 3 years ago!

Thanks so much for the help!

Chris

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