# Could use some guidance on creating a carve

I’ve been using a different hobby cnc machine with it’s own software for a number of years. The attached picture is an example of a plaque that I create with this software and machine.

I am trying to decide between purchasing a Shapeoko XXL or a X-Carve 1000x1000. I’ve gone through all the pros and cons of each machine. I’ve done a ton of reading on both machines forums. The “usability” of the base software that comes with each machine will play a part in my decision.

I’ve used both Carbide Create and Easel. I’ve watch the tutorials on both packages.

I’m having difficulty creating a project such as the example in the attached picture with CC. I was able to able to create the big rectangle pocket cut that left the last name “Smith” present but I was not able to get the lettering on top of “Smith” to show up. What I am trying to accomplish is raised text with higher text on top.

I realize the I could use a third party package to accomplish this but I would like to learn how to do it with CC.

Could someone take me by the hand and lead me down the path of enlightenment???

Thanks,

Donnie

It’s a little tricky doing this sort of thing in Carbide Create since it doesn’t have a feature to depth limit V-carves.

Here’s one way to do it though:

Start by drawing up a suitable image:

If there are any overlaps (as in the Nomad text) — Boolean Union them by drawing something inside them then selecting Boolean Union:

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Do the math, or draw up a depiction for how deeply the V-shaped endmill which you are planning on using will cut for a given width. Select the paths and do an offset to match that for the desired — we’ll simplify things and use a 60 degree endmill (it cuts as wide as deep since it forms an equilateral triangle), so for a 1/8" depth, we’ll offset 1/8" out from the text and 1/8" in from the border after duplicating each piece:

Select the paths for the script and the surrounding outline and assign a Toolpath | V Carve:

Then select the inner border and its offset and assign another V Carve path — when previewed it will look like this:

Select the script text outline, duplicate it and offset it to the outside by 1/2 the dimension used above, do the same for the border

select both of these paths and do a Toolpath | Contour | Pocket:

which will then preview as:

Since Carbide Create won’t allow one to set the initial cutting height of a V Carve, one would the duplicate the file and reduce the stock thickness in the duplicate by the thickness of the above pocket.

Since the middle path of the script outline represents where the part falls at the bottom, start by selecting that and unioning it to the text, duplicating it twice and offsetting by 0.62 and 1.25:

This will have to be repeated for any counters:

Will,

Thanks a bunch for all the info. It seems a little overwhelming so I will have to digest it a while.

Let me correct one thing you may have misunderstood. Don’t worry about the slight slope to the letters. Pretend that they are not there.

How would one do this without v-carve? Say just using a .125 ball bit or something like that. Nothing fancy, just carve leaving the pocket, first layer of letters then the highest level of letters.

Thanks,

Donnie

Again, since the center border is the current perimeter/height of the uncut material, select it and offset it inward by 0.125:

Select that path and the central path and apply a V Carve and add offsetted pockets where necessary to achieve:

Generate G-code from the two files and cut them sequentially and one should get the desired appearance.

Please note that we have a standing offer for customers who are having difficulty with projects / tasks to send them in to support@carbide3d.com and we’ll work up a customized step-by-step tutorial.

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Leaving off the V Carve step will remove a lot of the detailing, esp. in the tighter areas. If you simplify the design / use blocky enough letters then yes, that could be omitted while still allowing for a nice appearance.

Carbide Create is excellent for many, many things, but as soon as you get into more complex 2.5D work and specifically vCarving, Vectric’s suite is really just the best. I waffled for ages trying to use every free CAD/CAM package available before finally biting my wallet and forking over the \$300. It’s been the best money I’ve ever spent on software, hands down.

Was that vCarve Desktop?

I did some more searching on the Internet. What I am trying to do in Carbide Create is called “text on text”. I found several YouTube videos on doing this in with VCarve but I would like to know if it can be accomplished, fairly straight forward’ in in CC.

Again, thanks for your input and time.

Donnie

Not a native feature but Will broke down one way of doing it. My instincts would push me into Illustrator/Inkscape and do some of the brainwork by hand if I only was doing one such sign. You essentially need to think of it as 2 jobs, one that goes to a certain depth with just the top lettering, then one that goes to the bottom of the cut with the two sets of words merged.

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CC457 (in beta at: Carbide Create Beta Downloads as of this writing) adds a feature to allow one to do this directly as announced at:

If anyone has any difficulties with it, please let us know at support@carbide3d.com

To do this using the Advanced V carve features it’s much the same, just a bit simpler:

Set the texts and duplicate them and set the duplicates aside in case a reference is needed:

draw up the V carving geometry in profile to see how things will cut:

and offset the top geometry by that distance:

Boolean union w/ the outside geometry for the lower layer:

Where geometry has been lost, bring back the geometry which was used by repeating the offset (inset since we only need the counter) and dragging the original back into place:

Punch out the geometry using Boolean Subtract w/ the lower letterform outline as the key object:

Repeat w/ additional offsets and duplicates as needed until all details are included:

If need be union all script text together as noted at:

https://carbide3d.com/blog/merging-script-fonts-in-carbide-create/

Do an Advanced V carving with the upper text and the inner rectangle:

Inset the inner rectangle by the required distance:

and use it and the balance of the geometry for an Advanced V carving:

Attached.

shapeoko_adv_vcarve.c2d (791.2 KB)

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Does advanced V carve work in the free version, or only Pro?